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Info-Hams Digest            Thu, 16 Jun 94       Volume 94 : Issue  672

Today's Topics:
                                "73's"
                "Renewal" reusable alkaline batteries
                           1750-meter info?
                           440 in So. Cal.
       6 Mtr. DX in Mon. AM-5T5 into East Coast/ Double E Hope
                  anyone figure lithium 1.5 v cells?
                         ARLB051 New FCC NPRM
                   Henry Radio Service phone number
                        License renewal delay?
                      Motorola Quick Call Tones
                                 Test
You know its time to retire (Compiled list of responses so far.) (2 msgs)
     You know its time to retire from the hobby when.... (2 msgs)

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Date: 16 Jun 1994 13:49:02 -0400
From: newstf01.cr1.aol.com!search01.news.aol.com![e-mail]
Subject: "73's"
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (David R
Tucker) writes:

>>
  : >>Therefore, 73 means "best wish".
  That doesn't follow at all, of course.
<<

It's called "back formation" and is a well respected source of new
words.  For example, 'pea' as the singular of peas....  but peas used
to be pease, as in pease porridge, and was not a plural.  It ended
with 's' so people thought of it as plural and invented 'pea' for one
of those little green things.  The same thing is beginning to happen
with "kudos".

So, if 73s is taken as "best regards" (note correction), then 73
becomes "best regard" (just one of them).

So, the burning question is not what does "73s" mean,  but just what
is a "regard"... and how is one regard judged the "best" one.

Jose   KD1SB

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Date: 16 Jun 1994 18:43:16 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!kabuki.EECS.Berkeley.EDU![e-mail]
Subject: "Renewal" reusable alkaline batteries
To: [e-mail]

In article <1994Jun15.221000.3518@eisner>,
George Cornelius <[e-mail]> wrote:
>I am interested in information about Rayovac "Renewal" reusable alkaline
>batteries.
>
>They look like a good deal, since the batteries themselves are similar
>in cost to ordinary alkalines, and unlike other rechargables have the
>full capacity of an alkaline battery , at least for the first few times
>the battery is reused.
>
>Does anyone have experience with them or understand how they work?  Is
>it possible to charge them yourselves, or are the specs for doing so
>being kept quiet by the manufacturer?
>
>--
>George Cornelius, WB0RRB               [e-mail]
>                                       [e-mail]

My humble and personal opinion:

 They are not suited well for amateur use.  They have a relatively
short cycle life (25 cycles), with degrading capacity after
5 cycles.  The internal impedance is quite high, so that if
you count on them to supply 1A of power, the terminal voltage
will fall significantly.  They have a sloping discharge characteristic,
so the last 50% of the cell capacity is supplied at 1.15V and less.
They can't be quick charged.

They are probably OK, for occasional use, where you may want to
use alkalines in the first place.  But, for everyday cycling
use, get NiCds.

-Ken

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Date: Wed, 15 Jun 94 22:15:53 -0800
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!pacbell.com!amdahl!grafex.sbay.org![e-mail]
Subject: 1750-meter info?
To: [e-mail]

In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Jeffrey Herman) writes:
>In article <2tki4b$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Chris Pearcy) writes:
>>Does anyone have info on the "no-license-required" 1750-meter band
>>(160-190 kHz) or the Panaxis CW transceiver kit for that band? Are
>>there many hobbyists on the band? Thanks.

>The ARRL email server has a file devoted to this band. Send an email
>to: [e-mail] and only write:
>index
>quit
>and you'll receive a very long list of available files. Look for the
>1750M file and order it according to the instruction.

Also available on HAM-server.  Send email to [e-mail]
Same instructions apply.

s

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Date: 16 Jun 1994 12:03:17 -0600
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!spool.mu.edu!mnemosyne.cs.du.edu!nyx10.cs.du.edu![e-mail]
Subject: 440 in So. Cal.
To: [e-mail]

In article <2tkqon$[e-mail]>,
Brian Suggs <[e-mail]> wrote:
>   The one point that you keep bringing up that gets under my skin is this
>issue of coordinators getting sued.  While I will grant you that it very
>likely could happen, and that defending yourself against any lawsuit can be
>expensive and time consuming, it doesn't wash as a legitimate reason for
>setting the coordination policy a certain way.

That's an idealistic stance; in an ideal world, people wouldn't get sued for
doing the Right Thing. This is far from an ideal world. Anyone who wants to do
what many folks are claiming is the Right Thing and break longstanding
agreements, even if they truly believe it's the Right Thing, had better go
into it with their eyes open.

People who demand that others do things that will invite a lawsuit should be
prepared to defend that suit. If not, they're just blowing smoke.

>   I would hope that at no time the coordinators said to the repeater trustee
>"We are going to coordinate your repeater exclusively on these frequencies for
>the rest of time."  I see no basis for a lawsuit if they coordinate another
>repeater on the same frequency.  (That's not to say it won't happen.  People
>sue all the time for all sorts of reasons, valid or not.)  There are all kinds
>of ways of insulating yourself from lawsuits, though.  Find someone with no
>visible assets willing to be the coordinator and put up with all the legal flak.

Good luck. The few folks who are willing to take on that thankless job tend
not to be the ones with no visible assets; further, there's the matter of
future assets. Just ask Karl Pagel about that.

You may not see any basis for a lawsuit, but there's enough of an implied
contract there to give any lawyer a field day.

>Again, people will disagree and debate as to whether policies are "patently
>stupid" or brilliant and effective, but I would hope the policies are
>decided based on something other than who is threatening a lawsuit.

Nice ideal to strive towards. THis is the real world. The real world is never
ideal.
--
Jay Maynard, EMT-P, K5ZC, PP-ASEL | Never ascribe to malice that which can
[e-mail]   | adequately be explained by stupidity.
To Sarah Brady, Howard Metzenbaum, Dianne Feinstein, and Charles Schumer:
Thanks. Without you, I would be neither a gun owner nor an NRA life member.

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Date: 16 Jun 1994 17:10:53 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!convex!news.duke.edu!zombie.ncsc.mil!cs.umd.edu!newsfeed.gsfc.nasa.gov!bolt.gsfc.nasa.gov![e-mail]
Subject: 6 Mtr. DX in Mon. AM-5T5 into East Coast/ Double E Hope
To: [e-mail]

I recieved the call, but couldn't go home!!! A 5T5 in Africa was in for 2
hrs via Double Hop E-Skip. K1HTV in MD reported it. Assume alot of East
Coast was included. This was after a week end of super E-Skip on 6 & 2
meters.Six  was East Cost to Mexico & some double hop E also. Two meters
was NY to Lousiana & MD to at least two W Zero land grids. Dick W1DGA

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Date: 16 Jun 1994 18:46:30 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!kabuki.EECS.Berkeley.EDU![e-mail]
Subject: anyone figure lithium 1.5 v cells?
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>,
Clark Savage Turner WA3JPG <[e-mail]> wrote:
>I have found my deal on Lithium AA 1.5 volt cells.  As someone correctly
>pointed out to me once, 'lithium cells provide 3 volts, not 1.5', but,
>there they are!  Anyone know just how it is done?  A little dropping
>resistor :-)  ?
>
>Clark
>WA3JPG

Are you talking about the Everady Lithium AA cells?  If so,
they are 1.5V by design, as the chemistry is Lithium-IronDisulfide.
The more common Lithium-MnO2 and Lithium-CFx cells are
both approx. 3V.

                    -Ken

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Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 17:23:40 EDT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!sundog.tiac.net!usenet.elf.com!rpi!psinntp!arrl.org![e-mail]
Subject: ARLB051 New FCC NPRM
To: [e-mail]

SB QST @ ARL $ARLB051
ARLB051 New FCC NPRM

ZCZC AG16
QST de W1AW
ARRL Bulletin 51  ARLB051

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Date: 16 Jun 94 17:47:49 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Henry Radio Service phone number
To: [e-mail]

Hi,
I have a friend with a TEMPO S 1 HT FOR 2 METERS which needs
a part for its squelch circuit.  Does anyone know Henry Radio's
Service Department's phone number so I can contact them about
this part.

Thanks and 73

TJ, kv2x

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Date: 16 Jun 1994 12:46:54 -0500
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!doc.cc.utexas.edu![e-mail]
Subject: License renewal delay?
To: [e-mail]

Does anyone have some idea as to the time it takes FCC to
renew a soon-to-expire General class license? I sent my form
in back in February and haven't heard from them. Mine expires
7/13 and I'm getting antsy. Would appreciate hearing from
anyone with some info.  73,  Doc Hamilton , K5RAX
--
Doc Hamilton, K5RAX                  Internet:        [e-mail]
Dept. of Radio-TV-Film                           [e-mail]
The University of Texas              Phone:                  512/471-9253
Austin, TX 78712                     Fax:                    512/471-4077

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Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 13:09:45 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!sundog.tiac.net!usenet.elf.com!rpi!newsserver.pixel.kodak.com!newsserver.raster.Kodak.COM![e-mail]
Subject: Motorola Quick Call Tones
To: [e-mail]

Many county and city fire departments use what I think is referred to as
two tone signaling to set off their receivers or bells at selected departments.
I've sent my GE radio off for programming and want one of the channels set up
for two tone decode but the GE dealer does not know what the tones are. I
know I need FM and ND but I guess these are Motorola designations and the
tech programming my radio needs the actual tones. Might anyone out there
have this information?

Thanks

Robert Yentes, N4GHJ        716-724-5342

[e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 13:54:19 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!news.moneng.mei.com!uwm.edu!mixcom.com![e-mail]
Subject: Test
To: [e-mail]

In <2tjj1t$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (saul yochelson) writes:

> <absolutely nothing>

I see amateur radio testing has finally hit rock-bottom.
Instead of publishing the questions AND the answers, they
just don't bother to ask any questions!  ;-))

--
  /`-_           [e-mail]  |  Vote Libertarian!
 {     }/                                 |
  \    /      N9SQB, ARRL, Amateur Radio  |  Call 1-800-682-1776
   |__*|   N9SQB @ WA9POV.#MKE.WI.USA.NA  |  for more information.

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Date: 16 Jun 1994 10:45:40 -0500
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!cs.utexas.edu![e-mail]
Subject: You know its time to retire (Compiled list of responses so far.)
To: [e-mail]

Subject: You know its time to retire from the hobby when....

... you're talking on the phone with a ham buddy, and you end the
conversation and hang up the phone with a 'KD1HZ clear'.
-- Michael P. Deignan, KD1HZ

...At least you weren't saying grace over a meal with your family!
N4TMI clear, er, I mean, Amen...
-- Michael Covington, N4TMI

...you end a face-to-face conversation with "dit dit".
-- Paul Flaherty, N9FZX

...You spend 2 hours trying to crack a pile up on 20 meters to work
a KJ2 station who is portable on Manhatten Island.
...Your wife points out that all of your children were born during
sunspot minimums.
-- Paul Valko, WB8ZJL

...you're having a Saturday breakfast and you say "call please" so
that you can interrupt a conversation to ask someone to pass the salt.
-- Dave Bushong, WZ1O

...You answer your phone, "QRZ?"
-- Mike Gauland, AA7JF

...And, after you find out who the calling party is, you say "your 59
in Virginia..."
-- Ben E. Cline, AC4XO

Don't laugh, I know someone who did that with his telephone answering
machine.
-- Kok Chen, AA6TY

...when you say things like "QSO" and "73" in casual, face-to-face
conversations.
-- Mike White, N4PDY

...You go shopping, get to the check-out, write a check, and sign it KE3HO.
-- James E. Proctor, KE3HO

...you're talking on an EMS telemetry radio with a base hospital for
medication orders and such, and sign out with your callsign...
No, I didn't do this, but N5JXS swears he did, and that he got a callsign
back...
-- Jay Maynard, EMT-P, K5ZC

...To get your ham buddies attention (who lives across the street), you
yell 'CQ! CQ! CQ!' from your driveway.
...your wife starts talking to you while your on the phone, and you tell
the person on the other end you're getting intermod.
...you've named your brand new German Shepherd puppy 'Radio Flyer' to
combine two of your hobbies... (this is true, this is my dog's name...)
-- John C. Wren, KD4DTS

...you're talking to somebody face-to-face in a busy place and you say,
"Let's QSY my office," and they know exactly what you mean!
-- Doug Renze, N0YVW

...u find urself typing in cw shorthand to fellow wrkers on internal
email...(I hve found myself doing this too many times)...
...u tell people over the phone "I'm at my work QTH"...
-- Fred M. Davis, VA3FD

...When the kids get names related to radio.  I'm Robert F. Casey, that's
RF, or radio frequency, or go further, radio frequency choke.   :-)
-- Robert Casey, WA2ISE

...You are in your car, and see somebody you know walking down the street.
Instead of going beep-beep and waving, you pound out CQ on your car horn
and wave.
-- Ed Bathgate, Awaiting license - Expects to be N3S** soon

...You're sitting outside somewhere, and you notice you've been hearing
"O  O  O  O  O  O," just a constant string of the letter "O," and
for quite some time.  Not consciously - it just popped into your
head - and you start to listen to the surroundings...and there's
a bird singing "OOOH OOOH OOOH," over and over and over...
--Scott Rosenfeld, NF3I

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Date: 16 Jun 1994 17:48:48 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsrelay.iastate.edu!news.iastate.edu![e-mail]
Subject: You know its time to retire (Compiled list of responses so far.)
To: [e-mail]

Thanks Jeff for the compilation.

Nice thread - what a refreshment.  No: california repeaters, where's my
license, code - no code, flames.


ken, N0ZEM




--
Ken Anderson   N0ZEM         [e-mail]     PH: 515.294.8996
126 Soil Tilth Bldg., Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa 50011

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Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 13:46:37 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!mixcom.com![e-mail]
Subject: You know its time to retire from the hobby when....
To: [e-mail]

Your 5-year-old son picks up your HT and says, "SQB monitoring!"

That's it!  I'm takin' him fishing with me now!  The radio stays at home!

--
  /`-_           [e-mail]  |  Vote Libertarian!
 {     }/                                 |
  \    /      N9SQB, ARRL, Amateur Radio  |  Call 1-800-682-1776
   |__*|   N9SQB @ WA9POV.#MKE.WI.USA.NA  |  for more information.

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Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 13:49:42 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!mixcom.com![e-mail]
Subject: You know its time to retire from the hobby when....
To: [e-mail]

You'd rather send someone a packet radio message on the 2-meter
band when you know damed well they also have a fully functional
answering machine on their phone line!  My wife loves that one!!

--
  /`-_           [e-mail]  |  Vote Libertarian!
 {     }/                                 |
  \    /      N9SQB, ARRL, Amateur Radio  |  Call 1-800-682-1776
   |__*|   N9SQB @ WA9POV.#MKE.WI.USA.NA  |  for more information.

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Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 18:42:26 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!spool.mu.edu!sgiblab!brunix!pstc3![e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

References <2tlomh$[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>, <2tocfr$[e-mail]>
Subject : Re: You know its time to retire from the hobby when....

...somebody asks you over the telephone "can you hear me okay"? and you
in return give them a signal report.

...when you're boss starts babbling about something and you wish you had
a VFO instead of this damn crystal on his frequency so you could tune off.
:-)  [just kidding Mike]

---------
Christopher Ogren, NM1Z            PSTC Brown University
Network Admin.                Box 1916 Maxcy Hall
[phone]                Providence, RI 02912
"the opinions expressed here are my own NOT my employer's"

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Date: 16 Jun 1994 13:22:07 -0400
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!sdd.hp.com!hpscit.sc.hp.com!hpuerci.atl.hp.com!hpuerca![e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

References <[e-mail]>, <2tn7jq$[e-mail]>, <2tnn44$[e-mail]>
Subject : Re: You know its time to retire from the hobby when....

In <2tnn44$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Kok Chen) writes:

>Don't laugh, I know someone who did that with his telephone answering
>machine.

I do get a laugh when my wife ends a conversation on the cell
phone with "KI5EV". Wonder what the people on the other end think.

My oldest son slips only when leaving messages on our answering
machine. He caught himself at it the other day and the recording
went something like: "88s mom, this is N5 unh <chortle-snicker>".

Of course, _I'd_ Never do such a thing!

Cheers - Ed Humphries
Hewlett Packard NARC Atlanta GA
Amateur Radio Operator's Callsign N5RCK
Internet Computer Address [e-mail]

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Date: 16 Jun 1994 13:19:54 -0600
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!spool.mu.edu!mnemosyne.cs.du.edu!nyx10.cs.du.edu![e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

References <2tlomh$[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>x10.cs.d
Subject : Re: You know its time to retire from the hobby when....

In article <[e-mail]>, Dave Bushong <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Oh, no.... I forgot about our cat, named "CQ", who would think it was
>dinnertime whenever I operated 20m SSB.

Big deal. Cats always think it's dinnertime. :-)
--
Jay Maynard, EMT-P, K5ZC, PP-ASEL | Never ascribe to malice that which can
[e-mail]   | adequately be explained by stupidity.
To Sarah Brady, Howard Metzenbaum, Dianne Feinstein, and Charles Schumer:
Thanks. Without you, I would be neither a gun owner nor an NRA life member.

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